Subject:  relative?
Date:  Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:13:12 -0800 (PST)
From:  Robert Brown 

Hello Fred
I don't know if you will get this or not so I will not go in to detail.
My name is Robert D.Brown Jr
My GGGrandfather was William Brown born 1815 Balt.Co.Md.
They were in the same place in Ohio then to Illinois
Shelby Co.Ill.
If you get this let me know.
We live in Ill also.
Thanks 
Bob


Subject:  Re: relative?
Date:  Wed, 1 Nov 2006 09:24:08 -0800 (PST)
From:  Robert Brown

Dear Cuz
I will start with this.
We are not possitive of William Browns Parents.Mother Katherine bn 1781 Germany or Holland
I think they were in Balt,then Penn.Then Ohio,Then Illinois.
William had bros Ferdinand,Moses,and maybe more.
William mar,Mary Ann Fickle Sept.8,1842 in Ohio ?
Children
Catherine bn June 1,1844 mar.Dewitt Switzer Nov.29 1867 died Nov 3 1925
James Franklin Brown bn.Mar.31 1845 Columbus,Ohio.mar.Martha Miller md.1872 died Sept.14 1902 Union
Cem
Mode,Ill
Ferdinand about 1848  Ohio Deaf mute died age 7 years old by falling tree.Mode,Ill.
Sarah Ann bn About 1850 Ohio mar,Eiler
Mary Louisa bn May 8 1852 Perry,Co,Ohio mar.3-12-1882 Shelby.Co.Ill. Mar.Alava Walls died Oct.12 1925
Union Cem by Mode,Ill
Martha bn May 8 1852 twin to Mary died infancy Union Cem.Mode,Ill
Ira Adolfus bn Sept.30 1860 Ohio died April 4 1942 Union Cem Mode,Ill
Alferd Elsworth bn 1861-1863 Ohio Mar Ada Griffith Died 1905 Union Cem,Mode,Ill
I am thinking the first William Brown born 30 Aug.1758 in Md.married Ruth Lane bn.1763 in Maryland.
William died 30 April 1853 in Hancock Co.Ohio Ruth died 19 Jan 1840 in Franklin Co Ohio.
I have not proved all of this yet but,this is the way it looks.
PLus My Grandmother on my moms side was Arminda Lane.married Alva Miller 
Her fathers name was John Wesly Lane
We are also related to the Cushmans.
My Grandmother was Pearl Mae Cushman bn 1881 Venita Ok.
The family later moved to Shelby Co.Ill
We are related to the Cushman,Miller,Lane,Compton,Devore,Beard.Lee.many more.
We live in Gillespie,Ill.
Let me know if we are getting closer.
Thanks
Bob


Subject:  Re: [Fwd: relative?]
Date:  Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:22:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Brown 

Hello Cuz
We are related to a lot of people that we haven't heard from yet.
I am sure that there are a lot more Browns around we are related to.
You can keep looking also maybe you will find more.
One of the Browns went to Ohio and mar.some woman and had a lot of children and then he left them
And the children were put in a foster home.
He went someplace else and married again and had a lot more.
I bet there are children everywhere in that area.
We will have to find the names of them
Well i better quit for now I will write later.
Bob


Subject: Re: Brawn etc.
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:31:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Brown 

Hello Fred and everyone else.
The name Braun or wn was like my dad told me.
Our family was first in Md.then Penn.My dad used to tell me we were Penn Dutch but 
was not sure.
Our family on the Cushman side came over here on the Fortune was in England then they
went to Holland
and then they came over here.
Robert Cushman Procured the Mayflower to bring the people over here and then he had
to do other things
and started out on the Speedwell I think and it started taking on water and they turned
back.
Robert and his son Thomas came on the Fortune.
What I am getting at is the Browns,Cushmans,Millers,Comptons,Devores,Lanes ,were all
in the same area as they
started in Md,Then Penn,then Ohio,finally Illinois.in Shelby Co.
I am almost positive we are all the same family.
They were all big families.
Getting back to the name Braun or Brawn sounds the same were Gereman or Dutch
My mom used to call the Dutch the Hook and Eye dutch because they didn't use buttons,
We lived by an Amish settlement in by Arthur Ill. 
We lived in Mattoon which is only 20 miles away.
We used to Pheasant hunt by them in the winter time,
Their children went to the 8th Grade and then they started to work on the farm full time.
I went there one time and built a porch on the back of their home and some work in side.
Everything was done by a handsaw as they do not have power,
The people had 11 children 9 girls and 2 boys.
The girls worked as well as the boys.
They had a meat processing plant on the farm and was run by a steam engine.
If you ever get a chance to go see the settlement you will enjoy it.
They have all kinds of crafts at Arthur when they have their fair in the summer.
Well I have gone on&on and haven't said anything so I will quit for now.
Have fun 
Bob
 


Subject: Re: Brawn etc.
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Brown

Hello Fred
My family started i Md,then Penn,Then Ohio,then Ill.
Md William,1815 ,Mose,Ferdinand,Catherine,maybe more.
The family was in Franklin Co.Ohio for a while also.
My GGrandfather was in the Ohio Calvary in the civil war James Franklin Brown
mar.Martha Miller.
When the family moved to Ill.it was in and around Shelby,Co.
They were in a little town called Old Mode and New Mode just a wide strip in the road.
My parents were born there.
Part of the family was born in Ohio and then the reast in Ill.
William Brown mar Mary Ann Fickle 1842 in Ohio.
I am almost positive that our family with the Lanes,Millers,Compton,Devore,are all tied in
with William And
Ruth Lane.
John Wesly Lane was my moms grandfather.
Another name is Alferd Elsworth Brown was my dads uncle had he lived which ties in with
the actor.
James Brown born abt,1792 in Balt.Md.mar. Katherine born in Germanyor Holland
Mary Brown B.1810 Md.Ferdinand b 1813 Md,William born Sept.22,1815 Md.Died
Nov.10 189 Mode,Ill.
I have to go for now if anyone wants more let me know.
Bob
 
Subject: Re: Website
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:14:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Brown 

Thanks Fred
I am just learning how to add the pictures so bear with me.
The more I hear about the Ruth Lane being an Indian the more I beleive it.
On my moms side they were all dark complected.
My brother and sisters were dark brown hair and eyes and they looked liked they had a suntan year around.
On the Brown side I am the shortest about 5-9 or10
My brother and uncle and cousins were and are over 6ft.
They are tall and lean and they do not have a heavy beard or hair on their chest.
I have to shave twice a day and have hair on my chest.
I am the odd ball I guess.
My dad took after the Cushman side of the family with hasel eyes and I have the same.
When my brother was young he had blond hair andthen it turned dark.
I had blond hair then it turned a little darker.
My brothers son has blond hair and he is in his fifties.
My nephews all have blond hair.
I have 4 daughters and 3 of them have blond hair.
Like I said I look like my dad and the rest look like my moms side.
She was a Miller and lane and they look like indians.
I saw where someone wrote about drinking milk I drink a lot of it.
There are a lot of carpenters in our family also.
That would tie in where William Brown was helping build the fort where they had a lead smelter.
My GGGrandfather William Brown born 1815 was a wheel rite or right where he made wheels for the wagons.
I have been a carpenter for over 50 years.
I will try to put the pictures on the line if I can not do it when my kids come over for Easter I will get them to do it.
I added the Cushmans on the message because there are a lot of Browns that are related to them.
My Dads mother was Pearl Mae Cushman born 1881 married Elmer Brown born 1881
The Cushmans came over on the Fortune.
I know this is susposed to be Browns but,they are a big family and are related.
We are also related to the Millers my mother,Comptons,Devores,Beards,Lee,Iller,Griffith,many more.
When I learn how to put the pictures on I will attach them.
My nephew Preston Brown also has a lot on the family.
Willy is also related.
Thanks again for letting me on your page.
Bob


Subject: Re: Website
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:19:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Brown 

Fred
I still think if there is any Indian it is on my moms side.
Her mother was Arminda Lane.
Father was John Wesley Lane this is why I think that we tie in with your family because of my moms side were
all dark complected.
Her father was John Alva Miller born 1873 I think the Miller side came from England in the 1600s maybe?
I think the reason he was dark also because years ago they intremingled before he was born.
Because it is the Millers that are on the dark side.
My mom said that one of her ancesters married one of the islander when he came over here.
That would be the reason to look like an Indian.
She said her G_______Grandfather Lane was the one that was on one of the ships he could have been a
sailor?
She said they stopped on one of the islands so it could be true,
As far as the Brown side my dad used to tell me are name had been changed when they came over here.
That was back in late 1600S early 1700S maybe?
My GGGrandfather William Brown bn.Balt.Co.Md Sept.22,1815 so it all ties in with your family.
I have been trying to find out more about John Wesley Lane 
We should get Ann O'Rourke in this group.
She sent me a message about her family which is the same.
This is what she has written.
I just came across your posting re Becky and Socia Brown and the Van Lue family,Rebecca and Socia Brown 
are two of the six children born to Elisha Brown and Elizabeth Stothe.
They also had four sons;Elisha,Elijah,Abraham and Jacob.
Elisha (the father)was the son of William and Harriett (according to family records)Lane,And again according to
family records,William was born in Baltimore.
Abraham Browne (family spelled it with an "e" at the end was a doctor in Van Lue around 1854-1860 
and 1865 through 1870.( not sure about the last date)
My husband is a decendant of Abraham Browne.
This was what I received from her.
Some of the family went to Shelby Co.Illinois.
Abraham was in or around Tower Hill and mine was around Old Mode and New Mode Ill.
Tower Hill is only about 10 miles from there.
 
Here is the form you can go to it and check the rest of it out.
http;//genforum.genealogy.com/brown/
Good luck.
Bob


Subject: Re: Website
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:29:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Brown 

Hello Fred
I appreciate you adding the information on the list.
I was just reading about Iller on the list.
Sara Ann Brown b.14 Sept.1849 in Madison,Perry,Ohio d.30 Sept 1904 Columbus,Franklin,Ohio
Sara mar.Charles Henry Iller b.12 Feb 1847 in Va.m.Jan.1871
Sara was my G G.Aunt William and Mary Ann Fickles daughter.
William Brown born 1815 married Mary Ann Fickle
The reason I am writing this is that Iller is on the list of Browns list
Also I am related to the Devores.
Margaret May Brown mar.Frank Devore 
There is probably more that are related if I keep digging I just ran across it and I thought I would add it on the
list.
Thanks
Bob


Subject: Re: John Wesley Lane
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:05:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Brown 

Hello Fred
John Wesley Lane born Dec.1851 ? could not read on the stone was mar.July 18 to Malinda Susan Sands
1880
Malinda Susan Sands born April 17 1855 died April 28 1884
Children
Armidy or Arminda ?born June 13 1881
Ray Luther Lane bn.Mar.23 1884 died July 29 1886
Bird Lane bn.Aug 4 1887
Milises Florence July 19 1889
Silan Florence bn. Aug 14 1894
John W.Lane Married Elizabeth Archer Aug.4 1884 Hawkins Co.Tenn.
 
Aunt Florence Lane bn Eastern Tenn.moved to Ark.mar Charley Davis She attended school in Alabama then
moved 
to Ark.From Ark to Ada ,Okla.She mar.in Havana,Ark.then moved to Okla.
John Wesley Lane died May 5 1923
Elizabeth Archer born 1861 died Nov.20 1902
 
William Sands 24
Rachel 28
Malinda 3 Henry 1
HW-106-96-Hawkins,co.in 1860 census,Tenn Val 4 Mc Kirsham Sexton,page 422
William Sands father 34 Rachel 28
children Malinda 3
Henry 1
HW-106-96 also micker film.
Book 1960 censuses,Tenn-Val 4-
 
Uriah Miller Birth 1820 mar.Elizabeth Thomas Feb 16 1884 Darke Co.Ohio
Children John Miller mar.Clara
Adam Miller
Jacob Miller
 
Uriahs Miller second wife Tabitha Walls
There is more but,that is all I have on the Lanes other than the first page I sent to you.
Arminda Lane was my grandmother.
I hope this is not to confusing.
I just copied what my mom had written down from her dads bible.
I am sure they all are related one way or another.
The Browns,Miller,Lane,Cushman,Compton,Devore,Beard,Lee,Sands,Iller,Griffths,many more are all in the
same group
The Millers and Browns were in Darke Co.Ohio and Columbus and other areas in Ohio then moved to Illinois
in Shelby Co.
William Brown born Balt,Co.Md 9-22-1815 mar.Sept.8 1842 died Nov.10 1889 Mode,Ill
Mar.Mary Ann Fickle Born Feb.25 1820 Ohio Died Sept.25 1898 Union Cem Mode,Ill Father Joseph Fickle
mother Nancy Tannihill? died 1859 Ohio
Children 
Catharine b June 1 1848 Ohio mar.Nov.29 1867 died Nov.3 1925 mar.Dewitt Switzer
James Franklin Born Mar.31 1845 died Sept 14 1902 Union Cem Mode,Ill.Mar Martha Miller 1872
Ferdinand born about 1848 Ohio died 7 years old by fallen tree.
Sarah Ann born about 1850 Mar.Eiler
Mary Louisa Born May.8 1852 Perry Co.Ohio mar.3/12/1882 Shelby Co.Ill.Alva Walls.died Oct.12 1925
Union,Cem.
Mode,Ill.
Martha born 5/8/1852 twin to Mary died in infancy Union Cem Mode,Ill.
Charlie born about 1856 died April 4 1942 mar.Belle Gordon Nov.9 1879 buried Union Cem.Died Typhoid
Ira Aldolfus born Sept.30 1860 Ohio died April 4 1942 Union Cem.
Alferd Elsworth born 1861-1863? Died 1905 mar.Ada Griffith
I hope you can read all of this I was taking all of it from my moms papers.
Did you notice the ElSWORTH? same name as the actor Right???
All of the people above was my dads aunts and uncles
This is part of the family that is related to the lanes through my mother.
Thank You
Bob


Subject: Re: John Wesley Lane
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Brown 

Fred
Alferd Elsworth was born in Ohio and ended up in Illinois.
Bird Lane was my Grandmothers half brother I think.
John Wesley was mar to Malinda M Sands they had 1 daughter Arminda then a son that died about 4 years old.
John then married Elizabeth Archer in Hawkins Co.Tenn.
Children 
Byrd or Bird Lane 1887
Malises Florence 1889 
Silas Emerson 1894
All born in Tenn.
Then they moved to Allen,Ok.Elizabeth died 1902 in OK.John Wesley died April 1923 OK.
I hope this helps.
Bob


Subject: John Wesley Lane
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:45:37 -0700
From: Fred Griswold
To: Robert Brown

Cuz,

I made a note to myself once to see if I could trace John Wesley Lane in
the censuses to find out if he might be Indian. I finally decided to do
it. I've looked for him in 1900, 1910, & 1920 on OK and TN, and 1880 TN,
with no luck. I did find a Malinda Sands in 1880 - she was married to
him July 1880, right? The only problem is her age, it should be about 25
and it's 21. Think this is the right family?

Fred Griswold
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~fgris/brown/brown.html

 Name   	Relation  	Marital Status  	Gender  	Race  	Age  	Birthplace  	Occupation 	Father's Birthplace	Mother's Birthplace
 Wm. M. SANDS  	 Self  	 M  	 Male  	 W  	 50  	 TN  	 Farmer  	 TN  	 TN 
 Rachael J. SANDS  Wife  	 M  	 Female  	 W  	 45  	 TN  	 Keeping House  	 TN  	 TN 
 Malinda SANDS  	 Dau  	 S  	 Female  	 W  	 21  	 TN  	 W. Occupation  	 TN  	 TN 
 Saml. SANDS  	 Son  	 S  	 Male  	 W  	 20  	 TN  	 Farm Laborer  	 TN  	 TN 
 Sarah SANDS  	 Dau  	 S  	 Female  	 W  	 13  	 TN  	 W.  	 TN  	 TN 
 Ellen SANDS  	 Dau  	 S  	 Female  	 W  	 12  	 TN  	 W.  	 TN  	 TN 
 Robt. SANDS  	 Son  	 S  	 Male  	 W  	 11  	 TN  	   	 TN  	 TN 
 Harvey SANDS  	 Son  	 S  	 Male  	 W  	 8  	 TN  	   	 TN  	 TN 
 Adaline SANDS  	 Dau  	 S  	 Female  	 W  	 6  	 TN  	   	 TN  	 TN 
 Cordelia SANDS  	 Dau  	 S  	 Female  	 W  	 2  	 TN  	   	 TN  	 TN 
 Mary Ann SANDS  	 Other  	 S  	 Female  	 W  	 10M   TN  	   	 TN  	 TN 

Source Information:
  	Census Place 	District 8, Hawkins, Tennessee
 	Family History Library Film  	1255261
 	NA Film Number  	T9-1261
 	Page Number  	275C       



Subject: Re: John Wesley Lane
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:32:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold 

Fred
John Wesley Lane was my mothers Grandfather and he married Malinda Sands
Their daughter Arminda Lane was their daughter married John Alva Miller bn 1873
were my mothers parents.
My grandparents and GGrandparents.
My mother told me that one of the lanes was on a ship either a sailor or just traveling
on it
that they came up through one of the Islands and he married her.
I can not proove this all I know is that all of her family were dark complected like an
indian.
My two sisters and my brother are the same with the real dark eyes and dark hair.
My brother died when he was 46 of a heart attack.
His son has blond hair like mine used to be plus there are a lot of blonds in our family
with
blue and hazel eyes.
John Wesley Lane bn abt.1851 mar.Malinda Sands 1880 Arminda was bn.1881
in Tenn.
Malinda Susan Sands bn.April 17 1855 died April 28 1884
Second Wife was Elizabeth Archer they had three children.
Thanks Fred for sending that to me.
I do not have it in front of me but,I remember seeing where Ruth Lane was John
Wesley Lane's relative.
That is why when I first saw Bobbys relatives I told her that we were related to her
family.
We are also related to Ruth Cushman that married into her family.
My dads mother was Pearl Cushman bn 1881 mar Charles Elmer Brown bn 1881
One of Charles sisters married a Devore which is another of Bobbys relatives
We are also related to the Comptons.
Small world isn't it.
Keep in touch.
Bob Brown



Subject: Re: John Wesley Lane
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold 

Fred
I am not sure about where John died if in Ok.or Ark,or Tenn??
They were in all three areas.
They were in Hawkins county Tenn.then Alabama,then OK.then they have 
John Wesley died April 1923 Ok.
They were in Allen OK.Eliizabeth died 1902 and then all they have is he died as
above.
My mother and two sisters went out there and tried to find him when our relatives
were still
alive but,they could not find anything.
...
My dad used to tell me that we were Penn.Dutch for whatever that is worth.
I guess his dad told him that.
His grandparents were dead before he was born.
His grandfather died in 1902 and he was born in 1906
I guess that his dad told him things that his granfather told him.
Back then that is about all they had to do after dark was to sit around and tell stories.
...
Robert


Subject: Re: John Wesley Lane
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:41:37 -0700
From: Fred Griswold 
To: Robert Brown 

Robert - 

John Wesley Lane probably died in Pontotoc Co. OK. I think Ada is where the
courthouse is.  Here's their website: 
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpontgs/ 
Now, did this family go from Tenn. to Ark. or to Alabama? 
I somehow got the idea once they might have come out of North Carolina. 
...
As far as being Pennsylvania Dutch, Brown could have been spelled Braun once, but
if your Browns came out of Baltimore, it's more likely your dad was talking about one
of the female lines. 

Fred Griswold 


Subject: Re: John Wesley Lane
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold 

Fred
You are talking about them moving around and Ada Ok then it makes sense to me
because 
they must have been close to the Cushmans because my grandmother Pearl
Cushman
was born in Veneta,Ok.
The family went out there when they had the land rush.
My dad used to have relatives in Ada.
I met them before my mother died they came over to visit her that was in 1994.
The Cushmans then came to Illinois.
When my dad was talking about the Penn.Dutch I think what he could have been
talking
about was that he allways said our name had been changed when they came over
here.
My GGGrandfather William Brown was born in Balt.Co.Md.also his brothers that we
have for sure.
I have had people send me papers about more in the family but,I do not have proof of
it.
They then went to Penn.and then they went to Ohio where James Franklin Brown my 
GGreatgrandfather was born.
All of his family were born there and then they moved to Ill to Shelby Co.
Later the family moved to Mattoon,Ill where I was born.
By them moving could be that they were farmers and carpenters they probably
moved where the work was at.
I have moved a lot my self being a carpenter for 50 years I have been in a lot of
places.
I have lived in this town for 40 years but,before that I made several trips to Calif.
I worked in large subdivisions till they finished up and then went to another one.
I was a contractor for 36 years so I have worked in a lot of places.
I worked off and on in St.Louis,Mo.from 1965 to 2002 when I finished up where we
live at.
I worked in Decatur,Ill for a year driving back and forth.
I have worked as far as 90 miles one way from home and drove every day to the
jobs.
So you are talking about moving I think that William might have worked at the fort
they built
I can not think of the name of it when the war was going on.
Ithink it was a lead mine where they got the lead for the bullets.
I do not have proof of this I just have what I have picked up on the computer that
people have 
sent to me.
I do know for sure that William was a wheelright.
He made wagon wheels and the wagons and probably built houses also.
His son James Franklin also was a carpenter.
My dad was and his cousin Charles Compton.
I talk to much.
I get to talking about the carpenters in the family and I have a nephew is one plus his
bro.
that died.
I got off the track but,I think that is the reason that the family has moved so much.
Later instead of moving I just drove or stayed in a motel.
I worked in StLouis where the carpenters came up from Alabama and stayed from
Mon.
till Fri.and then they would drive home.
I have to quit for now as I said I talk to much or I should say I write to much.
Bob


Subject: William Brown b. 1815
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:24:16 -0700
From: Fred Griswold 
To: Robert Brown 

Robert -

> My GGGrandfather William Brown was born in Balt.Co.Md.also his
> brothers that we have for sure.

Brothers? What brothers?

FG


Subject: Re: William Brown b. 1815
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:35:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold 

Fred
I told you that William worked on the fort I was wrong on that his father might have I do
not
know for sure.
William was born in Balt.Co,Md Sept 1815
Brothers 
Ferdinand born 1813
Moses born 1818
I did have a paper saying that there was more in the family but,I do not have it in front
of me.
I think that Williams parents were 
James and Catherine but,I am not for sure.
I am almost sure that my family is related to Bobbys because of the
Lane,Devore,Cushman
are related to Bobbys family as I was looking at some of the people that were in her
family
I just haven't connected them all together yet.
I have  book that has about three pages of Cushmans in it.
I have to quit for now.
Keep in touch
Robert


Subject: Re: William Brown b. Sept. 1815
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:46:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold 

Fred
My Grandmother Arminda Lane born 1881 died 1942 Married John Alva Miller born
1873 1947
Armindas mother was Malinda Sands my GGrandmother Malinda Mae Sands
married
John Wesley Lane
John Lane Father born 1852
William Lane born 1825
I don't have it in front of me but,I think Samuel then Wilkinson on down.
...
Bob


Subject: Re: Ralph King Wright Griswold
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:46:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold 

Fred
...
I also saw where there was a Miller in your family.
My mothers name was Mae Lavone Miller bn 1912
We are probably related in at least two ways maybe more.


Subject: William Brown b. 1815
Date: 8/18/09 8:34 PM
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold 


    FRED
 
    WILLIAM BROWN BN SEPT 22-1815 DIED NOV 10 1889 MODE,ILL UNION CEM
    MARR MARY ANN FICKLE SEPT 8 1842
    THEY HAD CHILDREN
  
    CATHERINE MAR DWEITT SWITZER
    JAMES FRANKLIN MY GGRANDFATHER MAR MARTHA MILLER
    FERDINAND DIED AGE 7 BY FALLEN TREE ON HIM
    SARAH ANN MAR AMAN NAMED EILER
    MARY LOUISA MAR ALVA WALLS
    MARTHA TWIN TO MARY DIED AT INFANCY
    IRA ADOLFUS
    ALFRED ELSWORTH MAR ADA GRIFFITH
    ALL OR MOST OF THEM ARE BURIED IN THE UNION CEM BY MODE,ILL SHELBY
    CO THE CEM IS OFF RTE 16 TO THE STEWARDSON BLACKTOP TO A SCHOOL
    ON THE EAST SIDE YOU TAKE THE COUNTRY RD AND FOLLOW IT YOU WILL GO
    RIGHT TO THE CEM.
    IT IS IN THE COUNTRY.
    WILLIAM HAD TWO BROS WE KNOW ABOUT NAMED ALFERD & MOSES
    I WAS SENT A PAPER BY WILLY AND HE HAS IT THAT WILLIAMS FATHERS NAME
    WAS JAMES BN  1732 IN MD WIFE UNKNOWN
    I DO NOT KNOW IF ANY OF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT
    LIKE I SAID WILLY SENT IT TO ME.
    MY DAD TOLD ME FOR YEARS THAT WHEN THE FAMILY CAME OVER HERE
    THERE NAME WAS CHANGED TO BROWN.
    I AM NOT SURE BUT,IT COULD HAVE BEEN BRAWN WHICH IS GERMAN OR IT
    COULD HAVE BEEN AUSTRIAN
    I DO KNOW THEY CAME OVER IN THE LATE 1600S OR EARLY 1700S
    MY DAD DIED DEC 28 1972  HE WAS BN SEPT 2 1906 IN OLD MODE HOLLAND
    TWP IN SHELBY COUNTY,ILL
    I WILL TELL YOU A STORY ABOUT MY PARENTS.
    MY DAD ROCKED MY MOM TO SLEEP THE DAY SHE WAS BORN FEB 16 1912
    MY DAD WAS BN 1906 SO HE WAS 5/6MOS OLDER THAN HER
    MY DADS MOTHER WAS THE MID WIFE FOR MY MOMS MOTHER ARMINDA
    MILLER MD TO JOHN ALVA MILLER
    MY FOLKS WERE MD SEPT 16 1927 SO THEY WERE MAR UNTIL DEC 1972
    WHEN MY DAD DIED.
    THAT IS A TRUE STORY THAT COULD BE IN A BOOK.
    IF YOU FIND ANYTHING ELSE GET BACK WITH ME
    BOB


Subject: Re: William Brown b. 1815
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold 

   FRED
   BEFORE I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT OUR NAME MY DAD USE TO SAY OUR
   NAME WAS BROCK OR BRAC IF THAT IS TRUE THEN THAT IS WHERE THE DUTCH
   CAME IN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
   I GUESS HIS DAD MUST HAVE TOLD HIM THAT I DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE I WAS
   ONLY 5 YRS OLD WHEN MY GRANDFATHER DIED IN 1945
   I HOPE YOU FIND OUT FOR SURE.
   BOB


Subject: Re: William Brown b. 1815
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold

    FRED
    ...
    FOUND A FAMILY IN ROWAN CO NC THAT HAS THE SAME NAMES OF MY FAMILY
    THERE WAS A ALFERD AND MOSE AND W HENRY BROWN ALL BROTHERS
    THE DATE IS ABOUT THE SAME TIME ALSO.
    THE WILLIOAM BROWN B BET 1726 -1730 IN OF,ROWAN CO,NORTH CAROLINA
     BEFORE THAT THERE WAS A JAMES BROWN THAT MARRIED ONE OF THE
     WOMEN THAT CAME OVER ON THE MAYFLOWER.
     ...
     WE KNOW THAT WILLIAM & ALFERD&MOSE WAS BN I BALT CO MD AND THEY
     ARE ONLY A YR APART.
     ...
     MY DADS MOTHER WAS PEARL MAE CUSHMAN BN IN VENITA OK 1881 AND
     THEN THEY WENT BACK TO ILLINOIS
     THERE ARE STILL CUSHMANS IN OK
     WE ARE RELATED TO
      CUSHMAN
      MILLER
      LANES
      SAND
      LEE
      COMPTON
      BEARD
      WALLS
      ...
       BOB


Subject: Re: William Brown b. 1815
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 
From: Robert Brown 
To: Fred Griswold 

    FRED
    THE REASON I SAID THAT I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE HERE EARLIER THAN
    THAT IS BECAUSE I HAVE A BOOK JOHN HOWLAND OF THE MAYFLOWER
    VOLUME 1 WHERE ELIZABETH HOWLAND OF THE MAYFLOWER DAUGHTER
    LYDIA HOWLAND 1633-1710 MAR JAMES BROWN
    RUTH HOWLAND 1646-1679 MAR THOMAS CUSHMAN WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN
    MY GRANDMOTHERS GGGGRANDFATHER MORE OR LESS SHE WAS BN IN 1881
    I HAVE ALL HER RECORDS BACK ABOUT 1200 I THINK
    ROBERT CUSHMAN AND HIS SON THOMAS CUSHMAN CAME HERE ON THE
    FORTUNE.
    HE PROCURED THE MAY FLOWER AND COULD NOT GO AT THE TIME AND HE
    STARTED ON THE SPEEDWELL I THINK IT WAS AND IT STARTED LEAKING AND
    THEY TURNED BACK AND WENT ON THE FORTUNE.
    GETTING BACK TO JAMES BROWN MY GGRANDFATHER WAS JAMES FRANKLIN
    BROWN  AND MY DAD HAD A BRO NAMED JAMES ALSO
    ...
    I DO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE CUSHMANS WENT TO HOLLAND AND LIVED
    BEFORE THEY CAME TO AMERICA IN THE 1600S
    I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY MORE THAT YOU HAVE ON IT.
    THANKS
    BOB



















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