"Some Where In Time"
THE ANCESTORS &
DORIS TORRANCE COLEMAN
KING ROBERT THE BRUCE
the life of Robert the Bruce
of Robert Bruce, Earl of Carrick and Annandale,
and Marjorie, Countess of Carrick.
in 1274, was 31 when he became king, he died in
1329 in Cardross.
Isabella of Mar and then Elizabeth de Burgh.
Their son was King David II.
Edward I of England regarded him as a traitor.
commander in Scotland, the Earl of Pembroke
defeated him in 1306 at Methven near Perth and he
hid amongst the hills and forests. At this time,
when all seemed hopeless he saw a spider
constantly remaking its web in a cave in which he
was hiding. This was the moment at which he vowed
to keep trying to free Scotland from the English.
of his brothers were executed by Edward.
the help of Edward Bruce, Thomas Randolph and Sir
James Douglas (the famous "Black Douglas"
whose name was used by English mothers to
threaten discipline to their children. Thus:
"If you dont do such and such, the wicked
Black Douglas will come and get you") he
gradually and courageously recaptured Scottish
castles and land from the English.
II advanced on Bruce's army with 20,000 soldiers.
Bannockburn, near Stirling, on the 24 June 1314,
Bruce's army defeated the English who then fled
south of the border.
he died in 1329 his body was buried at
Dunfermline. His heart was removed and taken on
the Crusades by the Black Douglas (Sir James),
who, just before he was killed in Moorish Spain,
had hurled it at the enemy.
heart was recovered and taken back to Melrose
Abbey where the new king, David II (Bruce's son),
had asked for it to be buried.
Melrose Abbey and the
mystery of Robert the Bruce's heart
The 1996 summer archeological
excavations of the Chapter House floor of Melrose Abbey
undertaken by Historic Scotland were designed to increase
knowledge of this important medieval building.
The team from Historic Scotland investigated the lead
container said to contain King Robert the Bruce's heart
which had been removed from beneath the Chapter House
Under laboratory conditions a small hole was drilled into
the casket and the interior investigated by a fibre-optic
cable. This larger casket was then carefully opened:
inside was another small conical lead casket, and an
engraved copper plaque inscribed;
"The enclosed leaden casket containing a heart was
found beneath Chapter House floor, March 1921, by His
Majesty's Office of Works"
The smaller conical casket is about 10 inches high and 4
inches in diameter at the base tapering to a flat top
about one and a half inches in diameter. Despite being
pitted with age it was in remarkably good condition.
Richard Welander, one of the investigating team from
Historic Scotland, said that although it was not possible
to prove absolutely that it is Bruce's heart, "We
can say that it is reasonable to assume that it is".
There are no records of anyone else's heart being buried
The casket containing the heart was not opened, and
remained in Edinburgh until it was buried again during a
private ceremony at Melrose Abbey on 22 June 1998. On the
24th June, coinciding with the anniversary of the victory
of Bruce's army over the English at the Battle of
Bannockburn in 1314, the Scottish Secretary of State,
Donald Dewar, unveiled a plinth over the place in the
abbey grounds where the heart is now buried.
ROBERT THE BRUCE, FIRST KING OF
SCOTLAND is my 20th Great Grandfather.
I am a descendant of his through my MCREYNOLDS FAMILYspecifically
through my Great Great Great Grandmother LUCINDA
MCREYNOLDS MCNEW. LUCINDA was married to the REVEREND
JULIUS CONNOR MCNEW, and their daughter MARY married
THOMAS FARRIS JR.they were my Great Great
Their son TRIGG married MARY ELIZABETH OWENS, and their
daughter (one of
12 children) MAGGIE married JOSEPH ALVIN TORRANCE. They
grandparents, and their son was THOMAS FRANKLIN (FRANK),.
BERNICE ANNA ANDREAS. They were my Dad & Mom.
My ancestors from LUCINDA MCREYNOLDS are written below.
She was married to the REVEREND JULIUS CONNOR MCNEW, and
they were my great great great grandparents
JAMES MCREYNOLDS & LUCINDA FLEMING were my great
great great great
ROBERT MCREYNOLDS & MARTHA RICH were my great great
great great great
JOSEPH MCREYNOLDS & SARAH DIXON were my great great
great great great
JOHN MCREYNOLDS & ELIZABETH SHEPHERD were my Seventh
ELIZABETH and their four children came to America, but
JOHN stayed in Scotland. He was 79 years old, and not in
very good health.
JOHN MCREYNOLDS leads directly to ROBERT THE BRUCE FIRST
JOHN (JOHNE) was born in Keppoch, Highlands of Scotland
at Stewartstown, County Tyrone, Ireland.
His parents were JOHNE MACRANNALD (MCREYNOLDS) and
JOHN JR. married MARY PRESTON. They had three children.
MARY died July 15, 1713
JOHN'S second wife was ELIZABETH SHEPPARD.
JOHN, my seventh great grandfather, was a descendant of
ALEXANDER DE INSULUS & PRINCESS MARGARET STEWART.
MARJORY is the daughter of DAVID II and grandaughter of
KING ROBERT THE BRUCE. MARGARET is a descendant of
England's Royal Family.
From this information, how do I connect to KING ROBERT?
It wasn't easy, in factit was a monster to do Don't
askit gets complicated. Are you confused yet? If
not, you should be!
I know most of this by heart, but I even have confusing
moments, and today just may be my day for confusion!
ALEXANDER and MARGARET are my 17th great grandparents.
Now, to go back in time to KING ROBERT, That still is a
It is, at least, ten more generationsand that will
be thousands of ancestorswhich I don't have the
room to put here, and it looks like there is no room
available to put KING ROBERT'S (mine too) ancestors,
eitherand they go way back to 9 A.D. Awesome!!
ROBERT THE BRUCE, FIRST KING OF SCOTLAND, was born July
11, 1274, and
died June 7, 1329. My mother died on June 7th too, but in
His first wife was ISABELL OF MAR. She was born in 1278,
and died in 1320
They had one childMARJORY. This line becomes the
STEWARTS. Her children marry into many other noble
KING ROBERT'S second wife was ELIZABETH de BURGH. She was
born in 1281,
and died October 26, 1327.
They had 10 children
MARGARETthis Line becomes the SUTHERLANDS.
MATILDAthis Line becomes the de ISAACS
DAVID II. He became the KING OF SCOTLAND. He never had
any descendants. BRUCE'S nephew ROBERT II succeeded DAVID.
He was the first King of the HOUSE STEWART/STUART.
JOHN died young, and had no descendants.
ROBERT BRUCE of Liddesdale was killed in 1332, and had no
SIR NEIL BRUCE OF CARRICK, died in 1346. No descendants.
WALTER BRUCE of ODISTOUNdoubted association.
CHRISTINA of CARRICKno descendants
MARGARETthis Line becomes the GLENS.
ELIZABETHthis LINE BECOMES the OLIPHANTS.
If you love History, you will
The STUART/STEWART KINGS were descended from KING ROBERT
THE BRUCE directly, and so too are the present ROYAL
FAMILY, who are descended from the daughter of KING JAMES
VI of Scotland. (JAMES I of England.
Here is a list of KINGS (and one QUEEN) of Scotland in
the period leading up to KING ROBERT THE BRUCE.
*DUNCAN I (1034-1040)
*MALCOLM III, (CANMORE), son of DUNCAN I (1057-1093)
*DONALD BANE, second son of DUNCAN I (1093-1094)
*DUNCAN II, son of MALCOLM CANMORE, (1094-1094)
*DONALD BANE, second reign (1094-1097)
*EDGAR, son of MALCOLM CANMORE (1097-1107)
*ALEXANDER I, brother of EDGAR and son of MALCOLM CANMORE
*DAVID I, brother of EDGAR and ALEXANDER, and son of
MALCOLM CANMORE (1124-1153)
*MALCOLM IV, grandson of DAVID I (1153-1165)
*WILLIAM THE LION, brother of MALCOLM IV (1165-1214)
*ALEXANDER II, son of WILLIAM THE LION (1214-1249)
*ALEXANDER III, son of ALEXANDER II (1249-1286)
*MARGARET, MAID OF NORWAY, (1286-1290)
FIRST INTERREGNUM, English Occupation of Scotland (1290-1292)
*JOHN BALLIOL, descendant of DAVID I (1292-1296)
SECOND INTERREGNUM, English Occupation of Scotland (1296-1306)
*ROBERT I THE BRUCE, descendant of DAVID I (1306-1329)
The present clan chief of the
BRUCES, is the Rt. Hon. EARL OF ELGIN and KINCARDINE.
According to Who's Who, the EARL'S full name is ANDREW
DOUGLAS ALEXANDER THOMAS BRUCE. He's the 37th CHIEF OF
THE NAME OF BRUCE, the 11th EARL of ELGIN.
KING ROBERT'S Father
ROBERT BRUCE, EARL OF CARRICKDied: 1304, Interred:
Abbey of Holm Cultram
Father: BRUCE, ROBERT i.e., LORD OF ANNANDALE. Born: 1210
Mother: de CLARE, ISABEL. Born November 8, 1226.
Married: 1271, Turnberry Castle, to MARJORIE OF CARRICK,
Child 2Robert, born July 11, 1274. FIRST KING OF
Child 3EDWARD, KING OF IRELAND
Child 4SIR THOMAS
Child 5ALEXANDER, DEAN OF GLASSGOW
Child 7ISABEL, born in 1275
Married after 1292 to ELEANOR
ROBERT THE BRUCE, FIRST KING OF
Born: July 11, 1274, Writtle, Chelmsford, Essex
Acceded: March 27, 1306, Scone Abbey, Perthshire
Died: June 7, 1329, Cardoss Castle, Firth of Clyde,
Interred: Dunfermline Abbey, Fife, Scotland
He married twice.
1. to Isabella, daughter of the Earl of Mar by whom he
had a daughter, Marjory.
2. Elizabeth de Burgh, daughter of the Earl of Ulster by
whom he had a son, who became David II of Scotland (r.1329-1371).
This David didn't have any children of his first marriage
to Joanna, sister of Edward III of England, or of his
second marriage to Margaret Drummond.
Marjory Bruce married Walter Stewart, the hereditary High
Steward of Scotland (hence the surname). Their son became
Robert II of Scotland, and from him came the Stewart
Kings and Queens of Scotland, and later England.
Victor of Bannockburn, 1314, Scotland's Liberator and
Assumed the Crown and Royal Dignity of Scotland, thus
bringing to an end, the Second Interregnum, in defiance
of EDWARD I of England.
Father: ROBERT BRUCE, EARL OF CARRICK
Mother: MARJORIE OF CARRICK, COUNTESS OF CARRICK
Married: 1296, to ISOBEL OF MAR
Child 1: MARJORIE, PRINCESS, born 1297
Married: 1302, to ELIZABETH de BURGH
Child 2: MARGARET
Child 3: MATILDA
Child 4: DAVID II, SECOND KING OF SCOTLAND. Born: 1323
Child 5: JOHN
Child 6: ROBERT OF LIDDESDALE
Child 7: SIR NEILL OF CARRICK
Child 8: WALTER OF ODISTOUN
Child 9: CHRISTINA OF CARRICK
Child 10: MARGARET
Child 11: ELIZABETH
Way back whenin 1946when I was in high
school, my history class studied the life of ROBERT THE
BRUCE, FIRST KING OF SCOTLAND. Almost from the beginning,
I developed a huge crush on this man. He inspired me so
much, because of his great love for the people of
Scotland, and because he gave so much of himself to
finally bring peace to his country. Little did I know
then, that 54 years later, i would discover that I am a
descendant of KING ROBERT.
He not only was Scotland's Hero, but he was also mine. I
am so proud that my Hero ROBERT THE BRUCE, FIRST KING OF
SCOTLAND, turned out to be my 20th Great Grandfather.
A PAINTING OF ROBERT THE BRUCE, FIRST KING OF
SCOTLAND, AND HIS SECOND WIFE ELIZABETH DE BURGH.
16TH CENTURY PAINTING OF KING ROBERT. THE BRUCE
TARTAN AND BADGE ARE BELOW THE PAINTING.
KING ROBERT'S FINAL VICTORY OF
THE BATTLE OF BANNOCKBURN IN 1314. KING BRUCE PREPARED
WELL IN ADVANCE FOR THIS BATTLE AND DELIBERATELY DREW THE
ENGLISH ARMY TO HIM. HE DID NOT JUST DECIDE TO FIGHT THIS
BATTLE ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT.
KING ROBERT IS REMEMBERED FOR FINISHING THE 30 YEAR WAR
OF INDEPENDENCE, BY FINALLY DRIVING THE ENGLISH OUT OF
February 10, 2002